Noah's ark question....?

How many (estimated) animals were on the ark? Did Noah take tigers, lions, cheetahs and house cats? Or just a general group of "felines"?





((This is mostly a question to "believers" but others may answer what they think the story suggests.))

Noah's ark question....?
No one really knows. He carried two of every "kind" for breeding purposes. A kind is a a group of animals that are inter-fertile. As in the dog family for instance, he would have had only one pair. He would not have needed a dingo, a wolf, a collie, and a lab-just one pair. All of the dog kinds today would have come from them. Cats would be the same. As differently as they may seem, a chihuahua and a St. Barnard are inter-fertile, they are both dogs.
Reply:2 of every kind living on earth then.......
Reply:several million!
Reply:Also, did Noah swing by the poles to pick up Polar Bears?
Reply:He took 2 of each "kind". Kind would be "feline" in your situation. And the book says God is who gathered them and had them come to Noah, all Noah had to do was build and stock the boat.





From what I know, there were about 8-10,000 kind at that time. So we are talking about 20,000 animals maybe. No one can be sure since we were not there.





And to help with the space factor, he took on the young. For young can handle the trip better, eat less and take up less space. For drop a baby and it bounces, drop a man and he breaks. Plus goal was re-population, grandpa tiger would be hard for that.





Average animal size, when you average them all, is the size of a sheep. So that means each animal should have at least 5 cubic feet of space.





Do this math of cubic space and amount of animals. Then figure up the dimensions of the Ark and its cubic space. And many answers will show themselves.
Reply:Not many animals were around at that early time in history. All the animals we find today came from an original pair just like humans. The animals Noah took were representative of each species. I used to have an article about how even though there seems to be billions of different animals and insects today, they all came from a very small number originally.
Reply:Around 16,000 kinds. What is a “kind”? The designation of “kind” is thought to be much broader than the designation “species. Even as there are 400-something dog breeds but they all belong to one species (Canis familiaris), in the same way many species can belong to one kind.





There were 7 of every pure animal, only 2 of every impure ones (those that either had split hooves, or didn't chew their cud, or both). Genesis 7:2
Reply:Ok, let's list just some of the reasons why the myth of Noah's Ark is not a real possibility.





I can think of some just off the top of my head, but certainly not all:





1. It defies planetary chemistry (no more H2 exists today than ever did.


2. No geological evidence of a world-wide flood.


3. Population genetics does not support it; it is impossible to get the observed variance within species genomes in just a few thousands of years--you would need a mutation rate on tens of thousands of nucleobase copying errors in every generation.


4. Problems of animal husbandry; what were all of the animals fed?


5. Botanical disaster; the plants would have died as well in a world-wide flood, and taken hundreds of thousands of years to recover into the stable ecosystems we see today.


6. Ecological impossibility; for the animals to have survived once released they would have required the proper predator/prey ratios in order for both predator and prey to survive--two of each kind would not have worked, as well as fully functioning ecosystems--hundreds of mature trees in fruit for fruit eaters,


plains of grass for grazers etc.


7. Salt water fish, coral reefs,and other marine species with specific salt tolerances would have perished with the influx of fresh water.


8. Fresh water fish and other fresh water species would have perished if fresh water systems became mixed with salt water.


9. There are thousands of species of parasitic species, many species-specific. They could have only lived as active parasitical infections. Noah alone would have been infected with so many parasitic species he could not have survived.


10. Room on the ark? For 8,000+ species of reptiles, 4,000+ species of mammals, 10,000+ species of birds (except perhaps albatross, which could have kept alive in a flood without an ark), 4,000+ species of amphibians and 5-30 million species of terrestrial invertebrates. As well as aquaria to hold all the fresh and salt water fish (see #8 above).
Reply:~~~11 ,,,, Since there is never a reference to any Superpowers, ie Miracles of Noah,,, which would illustrate his "Supreme Gathering Skills" in collecting the World's entire Animal Kingdom outside of water(and what about species that can only survive in fresh or salt water,,,,?), then Science easily prevails over this "Biblical Fact",,,,and curiously,,, what causes you to question cats specifically? It's glaringly obvious that he couldn't have even gathered every species of 'fly' in time. This is the Science of The Bible,,,, like the contention of a Geocentric Universe.
Reply:hmm animals were brought on the ark 2 by 2. and i have no idea how many animals were on the ark.
Reply:It does not say. At the earth's beginning, I am pretty sure these these families did not exist as yet. Micro evolution and natural adaptation had not had a chance to develop. It may have been the original feline template (perhaps even just a pair of cubs).
Reply:again i tell you that the flood was regional which necessitated the taking of only the indigenous animals. how many were there? Let the brainy people figure it out. But obviously there were few enough for the animals and accommodations to fit on the ark.
Reply:I do not know the answer to that question. But isn't it really like asking if you can dance on clouds in heaven. It is not central to the issue of salvation which is really the important question. Hope you find an answer to all questions.
Reply:According to the creationist museum in Kentucky


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-back...


the dinosaurs were on board too. The ship must have been sizable, like 10 times the size of the Nimitz to hold some sauropods like this one





http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subject...





I would like to start a cyber museum of crackpots to include these deluded morons who can't let go of their superstitions and confuse the ignorant with their pathetic attempts at pseudoscience.
Reply:according to muslims, God commanded Noah to take two of each animal (male and female) and take the people who believed in his monotheistic message.





in christianity im not too sure. its really vague. why does it matter? lol the point is that he took two of each animal :P
Reply:It's complex, and you reveal no self-knowledge of the story. Read it for yourself.
Reply:It just says 2 of each kind. It doesn't give a ship's manifest!
Reply:Are you being sarcastic again?


You are an atheist.


You don't believe in God.


So how can you believe in Noah and his ark?


Your best bet is to go to a science room...or something.... and talk nonsense.